Posts by The Fall Guy

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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer

by Edison Trent in

a friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.

they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.

they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?

The Fall Guy

What is the expense of an CO for the org? ZERO!

The publishers pay for everything - cars, accommodation, living expenses, allowance.

But it's money which the org would rather keep for itself.

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Mathew 24 is it a parable and if so what does it mean?

by Crazyguy in

each gospel has a scripture i believe that says that jesus only spoke in parables so this must mean that mathew chapter 24 about the end times is really just a parable.

ok so if that's the case what does it mean??

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The Fall Guy

Millions upon millions of Christians in various denominations (and others) have been hoodwinked and convinced by their "divinely chosen" leaders into believing that every environmental/political/military/social upheaval indicates that the "last days" are here and that "judgement day" is just around the corner.

From a strictly scriptural perspective, they are ignoring & ripping up every Bible verse where Jesus told Christians it was none of their business, (Acts 1:7) it would come as thief in the night, (Revelation.3:3) and it would come at a time when they (Christians) didn't think it would occur. (Matthew 24:44)

There will be many people around the world who get out of bed this morning, but won't go to bed tonight. Live your life well.

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Not A Day Goes By Without Me Thinking About Watchtower

by pale.emperor in

although i consider myself completely "cured" from watchtower brainwashing, guilt tripping and propaganda, i realised today that there's not a day that goes by without me thinking of the cult we left.

i think of my former family and what i'd like to say to them, what i'd try to explain and how i'd say it without them switching the "ignore" button and running away.. today on my instagram account my little step-brother "liked" a picture i posted.

i didn't even know he was still on my friends list.

The Fall Guy

You're not alone P.E. As long as any of us have loved ones still chained in the WT prison, we can't blank it out of our minds totally.

EAGLES lyric so applicable, as highlighted by Moreconfusedthanever:

"You can check out any time you like but you can never leave." (Hotel California)

I like this EAGLES line too: "So often times it happens, that we live our lives in chains, and we never even know we have the key." (Already Gone)

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The JW Fake News Engine

by snugglebunny in

apparently i'd been in prison, gone to wife-swapping parties and consorted with fortune tellers.

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i guess they have to demonise those who leave less others too are tempted to stray.. what did they say about you?.

The Fall Guy

snugglebunny - I haven't heard any slander about myself yet. Gossip, yes, slander, no.

If I did, I would make every effort to have the slanderer dealt with - by their elders or by the law.

Beat them with their own stick or an even bigger stick.

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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14

by The Fall Guy in

virtually every j.w.

will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.

crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.

The Fall Guy

@ Bobcat - Good one, thanks for that.I'll add it to my file.

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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14

by The Fall Guy in

virtually every j.w.

will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.

crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.

The Fall Guy

Smiddy3 - The Greek word βασιλεία translated as 'kingdom' at Matthew 24:14, means any/all of the following;

royal power, kingship, dominion, rule,

not to be confused with an actual kingdom but rather the right or authority to rule over a kingdom,

of the royal power of Jesus as the triumphant Messiah,

of the royal power and dignity conferred on Christians in the Messiah's kingdom,

a kingdom, the territory subject to the rule of a king,

used in the N.T. to refer to the reign of the Messiah. (Strong's Interlinear)

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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14

by The Fall Guy in

virtually every j.w.

will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.

crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.

The Fall Guy

Virtually every J.W. will gladly tell you that Matthew 24:14 proves that only they are God's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today. Crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another WTBTS teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days." (the same last days Russell predicted over 140 years ago!!!!!)

In every instance in Matthew chapter 24 where Jesus used the term 'you', he was referring to his 1st century disciples (including their contemporaries) who had asked him the questions in verse 3. Verse 34 confirms this fact when Jesus said 'this' generation – not 'that'. (future)

1) At verse 14, Jesus revealed what 'this' generation would witness before the end came, namely, that the good news of the kingdom would be “preached in all the earth.” (Greek - οἰκουμένη - "the portion of the earth inhabited by the Greeks, in distinction from the lands of the barbarians; the Roman empire, all the subjects of the empire" - Strong's Lexicon)

2) Scripturally, Jesus words proved true for 'this' generation, as Paul's words 28 years later confirm; “...the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven.” (Colossians 1:23)

3) Jesus then told his disciples ('this' generation) that a 'great tribulation' which would never occur again, would then unfold. That tribulation came & went between between 66-70 C.E.

J.W.'s should be comforted to know that Jesus never said anything about that great tribulation having “a greater fulfilment” in the future. The elders should be able to explain these contradictions to the flock.

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Watchtower Study Today from August 2017 issue " Wait Patiently"

by BluesBrother in

theme scripture , james 5 v 8 abbreviated to " you too, exercise patience".

(i guess we know what to expect now) .

" how long?

The Fall Guy

Proverbs 13:12 - "Expectation postponed makes the heart sick."

Who exactly created and provided the "expectation" for J.W.'s? Yup, Messrs Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, etc. - and now the 7 dwarfs in Warwick - all contradicting & refuting what Jesus said at Acts 1:7.

Yes CCOJW, you've certainly made millions sick for over 100 years with your false prophecy about "the end."

Thanks for the link B.B. - but no thanks!!! :) Don't want to spoil my Sunday morning.

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The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

The Fall Guy

IMO, the WTBTS of Pennsylvania & New York emulates every other multi-billion dollar organization on earth by being pyramidal in corporate structure and financial duplicity.

As in many such cases, the real power-brokers will invariably remain anonymous, hidden by their chosen front-men. And this is what the CCOJW governing body truly is, because the WTBTS is financially more dependent than ever on the religious corporation's tentacle than it is on their ever-decreasing publishing entity.

Perhaps this is one of the marketing reasons why the "faithful slave" of the CCOJW (not the WTBTS) has been pushed into the limelight and into the psyche of J.W.'s in recent years.

Let the people see & hear the future heavenly "kings and priests." It will encourage them to part with their cash.

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Out of the world, into the Truth

by apalro in

for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

disappeared.

The Fall Guy

Apairo, welcome to the site. Some members here will only criticise & ridicule you for having any kind of faith, while others will try to be constructive and sincerely demonstrate scripturally & factually how the WTBTS is not what it presents itself as - God's chosen organization.

Do serious research into Biblical topics here before your baptism, because after you've done it you will soon discover that you have dedicated yourself to serving the WTBTS - not Jehovah.

If you think I'm lying, ask an elder one or two questions after your next meeting and see what reaction you get. After you get baptised, you'll be punished for asking such questions.

Try these two:

1) Why does "the faithful slave" say that foreigners were only beneficiaries of the Law Covenant and not participants, when Deuteronomy 29:10-15 states clearly that they were?

2) Why does "the faithful slave" say that the Catholic confessional is wrong, but J.W.'s are compelled to confess their sins to elders? Jesus never said anyone was to admit their sins to elders after being confronted by a witness. (Matthew 18:15-17)

Don't walk into such a situation with your eyes and mind closed.